5 Ndipo iwo ŵangususkana kwaku ŵija, ŵakuti, “Asani tingati, ‘Kutuwa kuchanya’, wanenenge, ‘Na chifukwa chine mungureka kuvwana nayo?’
Kweni iwo ŵapimanga mwaku ŵija, kuti, “Nchifukwa tirive kupinga chiŵande.”
Ubatizo waku Yohane ungutuliya nunkhu? Kutuwa kuchanya, pamwenga ku ŵanthu?” Kweni iwo ŵangususkana mwaku ŵija, ŵakuti, “Asani tititi, ‘Kutuwa kuchanya’; watineniyenge, kuti, ‘Na chifukwa chine mungureka kuvwana mwake?’
Kumbi ubatizo waku Yohane wenga wakutuwa kuchanya, pamwenga wakutuwa ku ŵanthu?”
Kweni asani tingati ‘Kutuwa ku ŵanthu,’ khamu lose lo litipong'enge mya; chifukwa ndakukhorwa kuti Yohane wenga mchimi.”
Mweniyo ndi yo ine ndakambanga kuti, ‘Kuvuli kwangu watuza munthu, mweniyo waŵa paurongo pangu, pakuti wenga wakudanga ndi ine.’
Ndawona ine, ndipo ndasimikizga kuti Mwenuyu ndi Mwana waku Chiuta.”
Ndipo wanguza kwaku Yohane, wangumnene, “Msambizgi, munthu yo wenga nawe sirgha liya Yordane, kwaku yo iwe wapanikizganga, awona, wabatiza, ndipo wose wamotoke kwaku iyo.”
Yo ngwakuvwana mu Mwana we nawo umoyo wamuyaya; kweni yo wareka kuvwana mu Mwana, kuti wamwona umoyo cha, kweni kandundu kaku Chiuta kajaririya paku iyo.
Ndipo Yohane, po wafiskanga mvizi wake, watinge, ‘Kumbi mughanaghana kuti ine ndine yani? Kuti ndine iyo cha. Kweni awonani watuza pavuli pangu Yumoza, viyato vyaku marundi ghaku mweniyo kuti nditenere cha kufwatuwa.’