5 Batatikile ukutalikishanya bati, “Twakusosa shani? Nga twaeba ati, ‘Lwafumine kuli Lesa,’ Yesu akutweba ati, ‘Mba nindo mutachetekele Yohane?’
Nabo balisoshenye bati, “Ifyo asosele mfi pantu tatuletelepo imifuba.”
Napo ulubatisho lwakwa Yohane nikuli Lesa lwafumine nangula nikubantu?” Elo batatikile ukutalikishanya bati, “Nga twaeba ati, ‘Lwafumine kuli Lesa,’ Yesu akutufumba ati, ‘Mba nindo mutachetekele Yohane?’
napo ulubatisho lwakwa Yohane nikuli Lesa lwafumine nangula nikubantu?”
Elo nga twaeba ati, ‘Lwafumine kubantu,’ ndi bumba lonse likotulasa amabwe pakuti bonse balishininkishe ukwebati Yohane ali musoseshi.”
Ngu eye nalikumweba ati, ‘Ukoyisa panuma yanji, alinchilile ifiso pakuti Ye eko ali ulo ntalafyalwa!’
Lelo nayibwena nemwine, nakambi nkomweba ati, ngu e Mwana waku Lesa.”
Elo bayile kuli Yohane nokumweba ati, “We musambishi, napo ukomwibukisha ngulya muntu uwali nawebo kumutule-suba wa Yodani, ngulya uwo mwasoselepo? Naye nomba akobatisha, nakambi abantu abenji bakoya kuli ye.”
Uyo onse uuchetekela mu Mwana aliba nobumi ubutapwa, kuntu onse uutachetekelapo Umwana tayise kuba nobumi, kuntu ubukali bwaku Lesa bwakwikalililapo pali ye.
Nakambi ulo ali apepi nokupwa umulimo wakwe, Yohane afumbile abantu ati, ‘Mba mwebo mukolanguluka ati nine nani? Tenepo ngu mukopembela iyowo, kuntu Ye akoyisa panuma. Nebo tanshilingilepo nokukakula nkwanda shakwe.’