5 Batatikile ukutalikishanya bati, “Twakusosa shani? Nga twaeba ati, ‘Lwafumine kuli Lesa,’ Yesu akutweba ati, ‘Mba nindo mutachetekele Yohane?’
Nakambi ulo ali apepi nokupwa umulimo wakwe, Yohane afumbile abantu ati, ‘Mba mwebo mukolanguluka ati nine nani? Tenepo ngu mukopembela iyowo, kuntu Ye akoyisa panuma. Nebo tanshilingilepo nokukakula nkwanda shakwe.’
Uyo onse uuchetekela mu Mwana aliba nobumi ubutapwa, kuntu onse uutachetekelapo Umwana tayise kuba nobumi, kuntu ubukali bwaku Lesa bwakwikalililapo pali ye.
Elo bayile kuli Yohane nokumweba ati, “We musambishi, napo ukomwibukisha ngulya muntu uwali nawebo kumutule-suba wa Yodani, ngulya uwo mwasoselepo? Naye nomba akobatisha, nakambi abantu abenji bakoya kuli ye.”
Lelo nayibwena nemwine, nakambi nkomweba ati, ngu e Mwana waku Lesa.”
Ngu eye nalikumweba ati, ‘Ukoyisa panuma yanji, alinchilile ifiso pakuti Ye eko ali ulo ntalafyalwa!’
Nabo balisoshenye bati, “Ifyo asosele mfi pantu tatuletelepo imifuba.”
Napo ulubatisho lwakwa Yohane nikuli Lesa lwafumine nangula nikubantu?” Elo batatikile ukutalikishanya bati, “Nga twaeba ati, ‘Lwafumine kuli Lesa,’ Yesu akutufumba ati, ‘Mba nindo mutachetekele Yohane?’
napo ulubatisho lwakwa Yohane nikuli Lesa lwafumine nangula nikubantu?”
Elo nga twaeba ati, ‘Lwafumine kubantu,’ ndi bumba lonse likotulasa amabwe pakuti bonse balishininkishe ukwebati Yohane ali musoseshi.”