and they were reasoning with one another, saying -- `Because we have no loaves.'
and he was charging them, saying, `Take heed, beware of the leaven of the Pharisees, and of the leaven of Herod,'
And Jesus having known, saith to them, `Why do ye reason, because ye have no loaves? do ye not yet perceive, nor understand, yet have ye your heart hardened?
And they reasoned with themselves, saying -- `If we may say, From heaven, he will say, Wherefore, then, did ye not believe him?
And there entered a reasoning among them, this, Who may be greater of them?