and they were reasoning with one another, saying — ‘Because we have no loaves.’
and he was charging them, saying, ‘Take heed, beware of the leaven of the Pharisees, and of the leaven of Herod,’
And Jesus having known, saith to them, ‘Why do ye reason, because ye have no loaves? do ye not yet perceive, nor understand, yet have ye your heart hardened?
And they reasoned with themselves, saying — ‘If we may say, From heaven, he will say, Wherefore, then, did ye not believe him?
And there entered a reasoning among them, this, Who may be greater of them?